The Abundant Farmer: Mindset and Money in Agriculture with Hayley Grosser
Hayley Grosser is a farmer and business coach based in Victoria, Australia, who helps farmers change their relationship with money so they can create more abundance in their lives. Hayley and her partner both grew up on a farm, and they started their own farm when they got married. They encountered financial difficulties early on and struggled for years to break through a financial ceiling. Through research, mentors, and coaches, Grosser realised that it was their mindset about money that was...
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Hayley Grosser is a farmer and business coach based in Victoria, Australia, who helps farmers change their relationship with money so they can create more abundance in their lives. Hayley and her partner both grew up on a farm, and they started their own farm when they got married. They encountered financial difficulties early on and struggled for years to break through a financial ceiling. Through research, mentors, and coaches, Grosser realised that it was their mindset about money that was holding them back, and as they learned to think about money differently, their financial situation dramatically improved. Now, Grosser teaches other farmers how to retune their mindsets to wealth and abundance, so they can experience the same kind of transformation.
Shifting to an abundant mindset can unlock financial success. When you believe in the infinite nature of money, you are more likely to see opportunities that can lead to positive financial outcomes.
An important aspect of achieving an abundant mindset is changing your language about money. When you reframe negative money beliefs into more positive affirmations, your mind is more likely to look for evidence that supports abundance, leading to new opportunities.
Viewing your time and money as investments can help you prioritise activities that yield the greatest return. Recognising that working harder isn't always the answer can lead to more efficient and profitable operations.
Surrounding yourself with like-minded people and seeking mentorship can be invaluable. Learning from individuals who have successfully implemented abundant mindsets in their own lives can accelerate your progress and provide support.
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00:00:01.260 --> 00:00:02.785 Welcome to the Head Shepherd Podcast.
00:00:02.785 --> 00:00:08.888 I'm your host, mark Ferguson, ceo here at NextGen Agri International, where we help livestock managers get the best out of their stock.
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00:00:33.168 --> 00:00:38.847 We are grateful to our sponsors for their support, helping us bring Head Shepherd to you each week, and now it's time to get on with this week's episode.
00:00:38.847 --> 00:00:41.546 Welcome back to Head Shepherd.
00:00:41.546 --> 00:00:44.149 Great to have you listening along this week.
00:00:44.149 --> 00:00:46.661 We're excited to have Hayley Grosser join us.
00:00:46.661 --> 00:00:51.271 Hayley talks about abundance and a mindset around money.
00:00:51.271 --> 00:00:56.231 Before we get to talk a bit more about that, sophie's written another article this week.
00:00:56.231 --> 00:00:59.509 Sophie, it actually ties pretty closely to what Hayley talks about.
00:00:59.960 --> 00:01:01.462 Yeah, it was a complete accident.
00:01:01.462 --> 00:01:06.469 I was editing the podcast this morning and realized that we're pretty much talking about very similar things.
00:01:06.469 --> 00:01:18.887 So this is my second installment in lessons from therapy and just talking about how you talk to yourself in situations and how that can actually be detrimental to everything.
00:01:18.887 --> 00:01:26.509 If you're mean to yourself, yeah it just creates a lot of things that reverberate on throughout your life.
00:01:26.509 --> 00:01:29.025 And Hayley sort of says the same thing.
00:01:29.025 --> 00:01:35.512 You know, if you think that there's no money in farming, well there'll be no money in farming, and if you think you're an idiot, you'll feel like an idiot.
00:01:35.512 --> 00:01:43.784 So, yeah, just really looking at why we talk about to ourselves the way we do and that negative self-talk and what we can do about it.
00:01:43.784 --> 00:01:59.548 And yeah, it just was a really valuable lesson for me in therapy, just realizing I actually didn't seem to like myself very much in my head and the huge differences that have come out of actually speaking to myself kindly in stressful situations and stuff like that.
00:01:59.548 --> 00:02:01.929 So, yeah, it ties in wonderfully with Hayley's podcast.
00:02:01.929 --> 00:02:03.865 It's a good coincidence.
00:02:04.849 --> 00:02:05.209 Excellent.
00:02:05.209 --> 00:02:18.890 And yeah, before we get into that, we've got another live this month and, as hopefully people are noticing, we're actually keeping to thanks to you, thanks to Sophie, we're keeping to a monthly schedule of lives.
00:02:18.890 --> 00:02:22.811 We've had some really good ones in the last couple, this one being December.
00:02:22.811 --> 00:02:31.090 We thought we'd do a bit of a wrap-up of the year and sort of have the opportunity that we've done every now and again, which is ask questions to me.
00:02:31.090 --> 00:02:35.393 So we're really keen to get those questions in and so we can respond to them live.
00:02:35.393 --> 00:02:44.867 But also we'll throw it open so people can contribute on the day and interact, and we don't know how well that'll go, but anyway, we're keen to have a chat.
00:02:44.867 --> 00:02:51.248 It's your opportunity to be part of, hopefully, a podcast you've been listening to online for years.
00:02:51.248 --> 00:02:54.340 We'd love to have you join us and ask your questions, have a chat.
00:02:54.340 --> 00:02:56.106 So that's an open invitation.
00:02:56.106 --> 00:03:00.872 We're doing that on the 16th of December that's a Monday.
00:03:00.872 --> 00:03:07.990 That's going to be 8 o'clock NZ time, so six eastern states, australia and three in WA.
00:03:07.990 --> 00:03:12.328 But yeah, or wherever you are in the world, you're welcome to join us and have a yarn.
00:03:12.328 --> 00:03:16.150 But I guess the key to that will be getting your questions in before we do that.
00:03:16.150 --> 00:03:33.204 So if you've got some things that you think would be good to ask some curly questions, we'd love to have them prior to that you can send them through to sophie at next in agricom and we will get them, uh, queued up or jump on the hub and put them in there somewhere and we'll find them as well.
00:03:33.204 --> 00:03:34.967 But uh, yeah, looking forward to that one.
00:03:34.967 --> 00:03:35.710 That's always fun.
00:03:35.710 --> 00:03:39.549 It's good to good to be rounding out the year with a good fun podcast.
00:03:39.549 --> 00:03:45.290 Hopefully, um, and obviously we'll try and release that sort of on the over the festive period sometime.
00:03:45.290 --> 00:03:51.228 Obviously people are more interested in eating probably again catching fish at that time of year, but maybe they'll have time to listen to a podcast.
00:03:51.439 --> 00:03:55.110 Yeah, I guess this podcast this week Hayley Grosser.
00:03:55.110 --> 00:03:57.787 She's based in Nick Kniever in Victoria.
00:03:57.787 --> 00:03:59.131 She's on farm.
00:03:59.131 --> 00:04:05.324 She talks through her journey, of going through, I guess, changing her mindset around money and she's been part of the Farm.
00:04:05.324 --> 00:04:27.908 I guess changing her mindset around money and she's been part of the Farm Owners Academy, which some people would be aware of, and been a mentor or started off as a farmer in there and then a mentor in there and now does a bit of her own thing as well, just really chasing or talking about the yeah, just the mindset around money and how much power that has, which again again sounds as we talk about on the podcast.
00:04:27.908 --> 00:04:37.310 You'll hear in a minute it sounds all a bit, I guess, airy-fairy or a bit hard to grasp, but yeah, it's really really, really, really powerful stuff.
00:04:37.310 --> 00:04:39.487 So, yeah, I hope people get a bit out of that.
00:04:39.879 --> 00:04:45.192 It's times like this in ag where we need to really step up.
00:04:45.192 --> 00:04:47.869 We've been talking a lot about that on Next Gen Agri with our clients.
00:04:47.869 --> 00:04:54.346 But yeah, I think it's a really interesting and fun podcast with Hayley, who I think is a real powerhouse.
00:04:54.346 --> 00:04:56.829 I'm really looking forward to this chat and we'll get into that right now.
00:04:56.829 --> 00:04:59.966 Welcome back to Head Shepherd.
00:04:59.966 --> 00:05:02.184 This week it's great to have Hayley Grosser along.
00:05:02.184 --> 00:05:02.785 Welcome, hayley.
00:05:03.446 --> 00:05:04.327 Hey Mark, how are you going?
00:05:04.327 --> 00:05:04.949 Great this week.
00:05:04.949 --> 00:05:05.692 It's great to have Hayley.
00:05:07.454 --> 00:05:08.357 Hey, mark, how are you going?
00:05:08.357 --> 00:05:08.778 Great to be here.
00:05:08.778 --> 00:05:12.521 Going well, hayley.
00:05:12.521 --> 00:05:18.266 You're there in Knava in Victoria, obviously on a farm, but I guess today we're going to talk about, I guess, your story, how you changed your relationship with money and how you help other people do the same.
00:05:18.266 --> 00:05:22.408 Maybe we'll just start with that background of where you were and where you are today.
00:05:25.360 --> 00:05:26.122 Yeah, 100%.
00:05:26.122 --> 00:05:31.322 I grew up on a farm and my husband grew up on a farm and about the time that we got married, we decided to go alone in farming.
00:05:31.322 --> 00:05:41.108 So we started a farming business in our own right and so as we went through that process, we learned a lot of lessons along the way, I suppose.
00:05:41.108 --> 00:05:53.732 And realistically, we went into farming, you know, aspiring to do lots of things, as you do when you're young and you're free and you think I'm going to take over the world and create this, you know, massive empire of a business and it's going to be fantastic.
00:05:53.732 --> 00:05:55.785 And we actually walked into.
00:05:55.785 --> 00:05:58.232 Our first year in farming was a decile one year.
00:05:58.232 --> 00:06:09.442 So we were like it looked fantastic and then the spring cut out and we're like, wow, welcome to the world of farming.
00:06:09.442 --> 00:06:10.125 This is exactly what it is.
00:06:10.125 --> 00:06:21.004 You know, we had all these plans of what we're going to do because the season looked fantastic for starters, um, and then, yeah, just ended in, you know, not such a great year, and I think that first year we might have harvested fifty thousand dollars worth of grain off our 1300 acres that we were farming.
00:06:21.004 --> 00:06:32.512 So it was a a very big, I suppose, initiation to farming, coming into it, and right from the get-go, because we started our farming business ultimately from scratch.
00:06:32.512 --> 00:06:42.625 We had 320 acres that we were farming that come out of Marty's family partnership that we got to basically utilize to start our farm.
00:06:42.625 --> 00:06:53.519 And then we leased 1,000 acres and then we had some contract harvesting that we were doing on the side to boost cash flow to kind of get it going and working a lot off farm in that space.
00:06:53.639 --> 00:07:01.959 But money was always an issue, like right from the start we were running on very little equity because most of our land was leased.
00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:08.869 So we always felt this pressure right from the start that money was always the thing, was always the thing that was holding us back.
00:07:08.869 --> 00:07:14.632 It was always the thing that we were watching, it was always the thing that was, you know, sitting right in front of us.
00:07:14.632 --> 00:07:19.713 And, like I, come into the space with a business background.
00:07:19.713 --> 00:07:26.583 So I've trained as a property valuer growing up, went to uni and did that, went back to uni and did my master's of accounting.
00:07:26.583 --> 00:07:35.165 So I was very well versed in the business side of it but and my husband was really well versed in the technical side of it.
00:07:35.165 --> 00:07:42.528 But what we couldn't understand was why things weren't coming together and why it wasn't gelling.
00:07:42.528 --> 00:07:44.992 Like why weren't we getting ahead with money?
00:07:44.992 --> 00:07:48.189 Like why was it that we were still hitting the loggerheads?
00:07:48.189 --> 00:08:01.781 And like I'm probably really good at picking up patterns, which is why I think in coaching, now I can see what's happening with people and why they're creating the things in their farming business that they are especially around money.
00:08:02.524 --> 00:08:11.492 I could see this cycle happening that no matter what we would do, no matter how good the season was, we would always end up back at the same level.
00:08:11.492 --> 00:08:27.649 We would always end up back at the same kind of I call it a set point where we would have a great season but something would come up to pull us back, or we would, you know, we might have a poor season and then something had come along that might pull us back to a level.
00:08:27.649 --> 00:08:33.067 So if you looked at our kind of five-year average, we would always go back to the same place.
00:08:33.067 --> 00:08:36.711 It was like a ceiling, a financial ceiling that we'd put in there for ourselves.
00:08:36.711 --> 00:08:41.812 And so, like I looked at that and was like, why is this happening?
00:08:42.039 --> 00:08:46.503 Because if this is all that we're going to achieve in farming, then I don't want to be a part of it.
00:08:46.503 --> 00:08:56.663 We had to really seriously overhaul what we were doing and how we were doing it, because clearly what we weren't doing and how we were approaching money wasn't working at the time.
00:08:56.663 --> 00:09:00.649 So that's probably a nutshell of where we got to.
00:09:00.649 --> 00:09:16.489 And then, from that point, I had some people and places get put in front of me where I started to realize that it was actually the way we were thinking about money and approaching money that was actually having the problem in our farming business.
00:09:16.489 --> 00:09:33.623 It wasn't actually what we were doing or the lack of what we were doing, because we were doing everything that we're told to do around looking after money, budgeting, actuals, all of those things forecasting the strategic side but it was actually our mindset and the way we were thinking about money.
00:09:33.663 --> 00:09:44.785 That actually was the thing that was missing and it was affecting every single area of our business yeah, interesting, and I reckon there's I don't know a large chunk of people who are resonating exactly with what you just said.
00:09:44.785 --> 00:09:55.149 And certainly growing up on a farm and, yeah, it all sounds very, very familiar and I've always been blown away by the power of subconscious mind to change outcomes.
00:09:55.149 --> 00:09:57.046 I mean, some people are sitting there going.
00:09:57.046 --> 00:09:58.264 It sounds amazing.
00:09:58.264 --> 00:09:58.947 How do I change?
00:09:58.947 --> 00:10:05.568 Obviously you were coached out of a mindset or you sort of had to coach your way out of a mindset, or how did that work?
00:10:05.970 --> 00:10:07.611 A little bit of a combination of both.
00:10:07.611 --> 00:10:38.081 So I, when I realized that it was our my mindset or both of our mindsets that were really kind of the thing that was letting us down, I I probably dug my head into books and research and all of the things that I could find around money mindset, especially mindset too, but specifically money mindset, because that was our biggest gap and I dove head first into every resource I could find around that and I found mentors also that could help me in that space and coaches as well.
00:10:38.081 --> 00:10:40.969 But a lot of the things that I did was self kind of.
00:10:40.969 --> 00:10:43.381 I self coached myself a lot through that.
00:10:43.381 --> 00:10:51.611 So I would research an idea, I would come up with some resources and then I would put it into place and play around with it.
00:10:52.399 --> 00:11:02.283 And what we started to realize is I could start to see a direct correlation with when my mindset shifted to what then happened in our bank account.
00:11:02.283 --> 00:11:08.712 And it was really interesting at the start because my husband was a bit like, oh yeah, you know sounds great.
00:11:08.712 --> 00:11:19.989 And he's like, yeah, okay, and then things would happen and he'd like you know, we might have some unexpected money come in, or lambs would sell for more or something else would happen.
00:11:19.989 --> 00:11:21.902 He's like, oh, that's just a coincidence.
00:11:21.902 --> 00:11:25.091 And he did that for a couple of times until he went.
00:11:25.091 --> 00:11:28.630 Well, this has happened too many times for it to be a coincidence.
00:11:29.212 --> 00:11:33.865 And so, as we shifted our mindset, we could see a dramatic shift in our bank account.
00:11:34.427 --> 00:11:46.783 And he even mentioned to me the other day that he can remember the times when we were really working hard on our mindset, the times that our mindset dropped or we let it go for a little bit or we let it dip.
00:11:46.783 --> 00:11:54.929 In that first initial period he could see the flow through in our bank account, because what would happen is we'd get unexpected bills pop up.
00:11:54.929 --> 00:12:00.711 We had the bank ring us and say oh sorry, we forgot to charge you $5,000 worth of interest.
00:12:00.711 --> 00:12:08.990 We're just going to take that out today, which back then it was $5,000 was a big amount for us and it made a big difference to our business.
00:12:08.990 --> 00:12:20.063 Now not so much, but we could see this direct correlation with how we thought as to how money showed up to us and the opportunities that we saw coming off that.
00:12:20.063 --> 00:12:34.563 So it was a really interesting space where I was coaching myself through this and we were seeing the outcomes in our business and we were seeing our business start to turn around, actually quite quickly yeah, cool.
00:12:34.583 --> 00:12:38.993 So for, like, I guess, to drill into that, what is actually happening?
00:12:38.993 --> 00:12:43.110 So obviously we, you, can't just change your thought processes and all the good luck comes your way.
00:12:43.110 --> 00:12:43.461 It's not.
00:12:43.461 --> 00:12:49.780 It's not about luck, it's, it's about how you're viewing opportunities versus threats or what's the?
00:12:49.780 --> 00:13:10.701 I guess I mean you've called your business the Abundant Farmer, which and we've, I mean, I've done a bit of reading around the abundant mindset versus the closed mindset, and there's lots of people out there kind of who get into this competing mindset because they're sure that there's only so much money to get and so you've got to get your slice of it, whereas an abundant mindset is all about there's heaps of opportunity out there.
00:13:10.701 --> 00:13:12.546 It's just going and grabbing your your bit.
00:13:12.546 --> 00:13:23.927 What's, how does I don't know for someone back, if you were back when you started, and there'll be plenty of people listening that are in that position what, what was sort of, if we put some sort of I guess, guess flesh on the bones, what does that look like?
00:13:24.607 --> 00:13:28.653 Yeah, 100%, and I think you create your own luck through your mindset.
00:13:28.653 --> 00:13:43.587 So what happens is how we think about money, how we feel about money, how we view money and how that shows up is exactly what we're telling our mind to look for when it comes to money and opportunities.
00:13:43.587 --> 00:13:51.750 So if we have a mindset that we have to work hard for money which is classic in farming money's not easy to come by.
00:13:51.750 --> 00:14:06.558 I heard a great quote yesterday that their parents used to tell them money comes in on a drip and goes out like a flood, which I thought was the coolest one actually that I'd heard as a limiting belief, which I thought was the coolest one actually that I'd heard as a limiting belief.
00:14:06.558 --> 00:14:16.514 So if our mind is trained like this, then we're actually asking our minds to find exactly that for us, because our mind always has a bias where it'll find us exactly what we think about.
00:14:16.514 --> 00:14:19.187 No different to if we think about.
00:14:19.187 --> 00:14:31.503 If I asked everyone to close their eyes and imagine everything in the room that was blue and then I got them to open their eyes and say, tell me all the things that are red, their mind just can't find it because that's not where their focus is.
00:14:31.503 --> 00:14:38.783 So we'll always get what we believe to be true, and so this is where luck comes into.
00:14:38.883 --> 00:14:42.903 It is that this is where creating your own luck comes from changing your mindset.
00:14:42.903 --> 00:15:00.511 So when we start to think a different way and we open our mind up to possibility because that's the biggest shift that happens first We've been thinking about a way for so long and then we get to a point where we hear something like this, or we read a book or something that exposes us to a new way of thinking.
00:15:00.511 --> 00:15:08.164 Then we just open our mind up to the potential that what happens if what we've been thinking isn't actually true?
00:15:08.164 --> 00:15:13.764 We've just been telling ourselves this story for so long and we've been getting evidence of that story.
00:15:13.764 --> 00:15:21.708 Because we can't not get evidence, because you can't have a mindset like that and then expect a million dollars to drop in your bank account.
00:15:21.708 --> 00:15:27.427 So it's being open to go okay, wow, maybe how I've been thinking is wrong about money.
00:15:27.427 --> 00:15:40.490 Maybe money isn't the thing that I thought it was, because we create a lot of meaning around money and how we think it shows up where money's purely a tool, it's just we create all the other stuff that comes around it.
00:15:41.352 --> 00:15:50.572 Maybe how we've basically misunderstood money up until this point, and then we start what I call retuning our mindset to wealth and abundance.
00:15:50.613 --> 00:16:07.823 So what we start doing is we start noticing where money already is, we start noticing how money shows up, we start to tell ourselves a different story, that making money is easy, money flows to us easily in increasing amounts, and we start telling ourselves a different story.
00:16:08.345 --> 00:16:13.061 Then our mind can't help but find the things to give us evidence in our life.
00:16:13.061 --> 00:16:27.764 So we create this new cycle where, instead of having the old story where money's hard to come by, we see evidence of that and then it just spirals and goes around in the same bias, where it creates and embeds a belief in our mind.
00:16:27.764 --> 00:16:40.804 We then start to open our mind up, we create new ways to think about money, we get new evidence, and so the more we get evidence of that and then more we think the same way, we then create a new way of thinking about money.
00:16:40.804 --> 00:16:42.006 So which then?
00:16:42.006 --> 00:16:52.153 That is what opens us up to opportunities, because in our old mindset we could literally walk over $100 on the ground because we wouldn't actually see it.
00:16:52.153 --> 00:16:54.645 Our mind would just delete the fact that it's there.
00:16:54.645 --> 00:17:00.831 And then change your mindset and you'll start seeing money everywhere, because that's what we're training it to see.
00:17:01.581 --> 00:17:07.767 It's an amazing concept, considering we all think we're chasing money or I mean, most of us capitalists do.
00:17:07.767 --> 00:17:10.287 I suppose we think that we're doing everything we can to find money.
00:17:10.287 --> 00:17:26.227 But, yeah, 100% agree with the power of the subconscious mind and the best example I often use, which is not a very good one, but it's kind of when we first found out having our first baby and all of a sudden, like I'd never seen a pram or a stroller or any baby gear in my life, my mind was completely blind to it.
00:17:26.227 --> 00:17:38.746 And then all of a sudden, everything you could see was baby gear and and I'll never forget that very, very clear mental shift in my brain that all of a sudden it was seeing a whole different world that never had existed before because it wasn't important to me.
00:17:39.606 --> 00:17:48.138 As you went through that process, like I think a lot of people we see in farming kind of think that okay, we, well, yeah, we just get up an hour early and we or we go to bed an hour later.
00:17:48.138 --> 00:17:51.796 That's how we kind of head towards, head towards our goals of making more money.
00:17:51.796 --> 00:17:52.438 It's, it's the.
00:17:52.438 --> 00:17:56.428 Our easiest mechanism is just sleep less or work harder.
00:17:56.428 --> 00:18:00.578 Um, and part of that often is shifting enterprises.
00:18:00.578 --> 00:18:10.301 Like it, like we're gonna, I don't know start doing something on the side to process wool through or have our own little meat brand or whatever, and try and think that there's a different way that to.
00:18:10.301 --> 00:18:13.255 But but you're not talking about necessarily changing enterprise.
00:18:13.255 --> 00:18:24.784 You're just talking about doing what you're doing now and and doing it kind of better, with a more, with a more focus on on their, on their outcome, and changing the way that you see, see cash yeah, absolutely so.
00:18:24.825 --> 00:18:35.280 I think there is an element that happens that there might be an enterprise change and that comes later, like mindset always comes first, like the thinking always comes first before the action or the doing.
00:18:35.280 --> 00:18:43.309 And I think what happens is we are conditioned like as a society in farming, I think to work harder.
00:18:43.309 --> 00:18:48.644 Oh, we need to make extra dollars, or we don't quite have enough money coming in the bank.
00:18:48.644 --> 00:18:58.089 We'll go and do that, we'll go and find a better way, or we'll go and make our business complex, or we'll add another enterprise, or we'll just work longer.
00:18:59.015 --> 00:19:05.064 But if you actually sit back and look at that, if that was the case, everybody would be millionaires or billionaires.
00:19:05.064 --> 00:19:13.623 Like if working harder was the answer, everyone would be a billionaire and certainly every single farmer would be, because they're the most hardworking people on the planet.
00:19:13.623 --> 00:19:15.240 But it's actually not true.
00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:30.155 So that's the question I pose to people is why is it that I can give two farmers exactly the same resources land, infrastructure, tractors, seed, every single thing and if you tapped in with them at the end of the year they will have very different bank balances?
00:19:30.155 --> 00:19:52.980 And because the only derivative or the only change in both of those scenarios is what happens up here, what happens in their thinking and where their mindset sits, because one could have a very bleak mindset and a very negative mindset and be in a very victim space, and the other one could be very opportunistic, know that money is infinite.
00:19:53.000 --> 00:20:19.410 You just need to know how to tap into it and have this really positive outlook on life and you'll just get these two vastly different sets of results yeah, 100, and you mentioned sort of victim headspace, which I think is is often playing out a bit and people we want to blame kind of everyone else or every the government, the weather, the, the rep, whoever someone else is getting the blame for how it's rolled.
00:20:19.535 --> 00:20:31.325 And I love the quote that life is whatever, 10% what happens to us and 90% what we do about it, which is kind of trying to break out of that victim mentality, because it is driven by how we see our world.
00:20:31.325 --> 00:20:35.506 How much is our societal pull, like the tall poppy syndrome?
00:20:35.506 --> 00:20:43.700 I kind of always we talk about this a bit that we're sort of destined to be average because we as australians and kiwis and probably I've just been to canada and they're similar as well like we don't.
00:20:43.700 --> 00:20:48.994 We don't like tall poppies, like we like to pull people down if they succeed too well, then we also don't like people that are below average.
00:20:48.994 --> 00:20:55.064 So we're sort of forcing ourselves in this middle bit where it's kind of this comfortable normal where we're all just struggling away together.
00:20:55.064 --> 00:21:00.050 How much is that sort of setting our mindset when we're as farming communities?
00:21:00.596 --> 00:21:02.294 Well, I think that's a limiting factor.
00:21:02.776 --> 00:21:08.147 So it's like we'll always see the limitations that exist to keep us playing out the same story.
00:21:08.714 --> 00:21:24.315 So I think the tall poppy syndrome plays into that, because what happens is farmers think, if I have more money, or if I talk about money, or if something else happens with money, then all of a sudden I'll get an outcome where I'll get rejected by society.
00:21:24.315 --> 00:21:29.968 But what most people realize is when they have more money, they actually become more of who they are.
00:21:29.968 --> 00:21:45.217 Now, some of those people could be assholes as such, but for most of us farming, we still remain humble, we still remain doing the same things that we're doing, and most people wouldn't know that we had more money unless we chose to outwardly show that.
00:21:45.217 --> 00:21:47.080 So it's actually more.
00:21:47.080 --> 00:21:51.881 I think the tall poppy syndrome comes from, or the, the worry about the small.
00:21:51.881 --> 00:22:06.622 Uh, the tall poppy syndrome comes from the fact that we've what we've got associated to the meaning of money and having more money, what that actually means, more so than you know it actually happening yeah, yeah, good point when you go through this process how much is?
00:22:07.344 --> 00:22:17.821 is language like how, what, how you talk to yourself, how you talk to others in terms of, um, yeah, like the words that we use, because it's kind of like we are just a combination of the things we hear, obviously.
00:22:17.821 --> 00:22:20.527 So I mean surrounding yourself or making sure you're not.
00:22:20.527 --> 00:22:22.336 Yeah, I guess, how much is language?
00:22:22.336 --> 00:22:28.340 I'll just stick that question there rather than try and re-explain it, but yeah, I think language is massive.
00:22:28.441 --> 00:22:46.839 I think language is kind of like 90% of 90% of it realistically, because as we're speaking, we're speaking out our beliefs like they're the last path that they come to fruition, and our language is really strong because how we speak is how we're creating our life.
00:22:46.839 --> 00:23:01.768 So if you just slow down and actually be conscious in terms of what you're actually saying and you listen to what you say, you are speaking your life out exactly the way it is and you're re-embedding the same story about your life.
00:23:01.768 --> 00:23:09.067 Or what's happening is you're speaking something into reality that you actually don't want in the future.
00:23:09.067 --> 00:23:18.472 So what a lot of people are doing is it's like they might be speaking I can't afford it, is it's like you know they might be speaking I can't afford it.
00:23:18.472 --> 00:23:33.306 Or they might be speaking this season's gone a certain way, or this is you know, money is hard to come by All of these things that we're speaking out, or even like, oh, we're struggling right now, or money never comes to us, or all of those things we're actually asking for more of that.
00:23:33.306 --> 00:23:42.757 So the whole abracadabra that a magician says so that's Hebrew, for we create as we speak.
00:23:42.757 --> 00:23:49.460 So we are literally creating our lives, the way we speak about it, because they are a reflection of our beliefs.
00:23:50.122 --> 00:23:56.701 So when my husband and I first started this process, the very first place we started is in our language.
00:23:56.701 --> 00:24:12.398 So we started just showing up and talking differently about money, about life, about business, about farming, about opportunities and if we said something that wasn't aligned with the future where we were headed to, we would pull ourselves up.
00:24:12.398 --> 00:24:15.316 We'd either pull ourselves up and say, no, that's not what I want to say.
00:24:15.316 --> 00:24:16.317 I want to say this.
00:24:16.317 --> 00:24:21.269 Or we would say to each other is that really what you want to create?
00:24:21.269 --> 00:24:23.343 Is that really what you want to speak about?
00:24:23.343 --> 00:24:28.907 So we were very hot on our language to make sure that we were speaking the way we wanted to unfold.
00:24:29.115 --> 00:24:31.862 And so we hear quite a lot of people who might sit and go.
00:24:31.862 --> 00:24:36.243 Let's say, for example, the budget's tight or things like that.
00:24:36.243 --> 00:24:46.363 So what that does is it presupposes to our mind that it's already made a decision, that something's happening, so your mind will go great, the budget's tight.
00:24:46.363 --> 00:24:55.148 I'm going to bring you more things that give you a tight budget when we, if we just change our language slightly to okay, we got less.
00:24:55.148 --> 00:25:05.189 Our parameters that we're working with are smaller, in September, for example, or there's a possibility of being, you know, having less money at that time of year.
00:25:05.189 --> 00:25:07.717 Great, let's do something about it.
00:25:07.717 --> 00:25:11.384 Has a much different energy to it than what the first one did.
00:25:11.384 --> 00:25:13.356 The first one shutting down all possibility.
00:25:13.356 --> 00:25:15.422 The next one's opening up possibility.
00:25:15.422 --> 00:25:19.900 So what your mind will do then is go to work, going oh, there's a potential of this.
00:25:19.900 --> 00:25:22.244 Let's go to work and find solutions.
00:25:22.244 --> 00:25:31.068 So our language is really, really key in terms of how our money, our business, our opportunities show up to us in life.
00:25:31.615 --> 00:25:32.076 Yeah, cool.
00:25:32.076 --> 00:25:34.363 I'm thinking as you start down that journey.
00:25:34.363 --> 00:25:56.878 That feels weird for the first month or two yeah, absolutely yeah, and then once you're in I guess I don't know you're we're talking a number of years ago now, since, like, as you've sort of gone through that transition that, do you still need to force the language or is it sort of now, like you just known, like it's just second nature, you're not going down the negative, or do you still catch yourself a bit?
00:25:57.641 --> 00:25:58.561 There's a little bit of both.
00:25:58.561 --> 00:26:08.855 I think 90% of it probably comes a lot more natural as you work through and basically open up your mind to a different way of thinking about money.
00:26:08.855 --> 00:26:18.904 It's like you reach different levels in your thinking, like you'll go through a different level and you'll hit a barrier of thinking, so that barrier will bring different beliefs with it.
00:26:18.904 --> 00:26:24.186 So the other 10% I think comes up that are showing those new beliefs.
00:26:24.186 --> 00:26:35.286 So I think like it's really good, for sometimes, you know, I've got to catch myself again because it shows me the new area that I have to work on and where I have to change that language again.
00:26:35.286 --> 00:26:40.126 So I think, yes, it becomes natural, but yes, it also does show up.
00:26:40.126 --> 00:26:55.060 And I've had people who have listened to me in conversation and I've pulled myself up, changed the way I've wanted to say the same thing, and they've really appreciated the fact that I've taken the time to actually re-change it to the direction that I want it to be in.
00:26:55.864 --> 00:27:06.005 Yeah, I mean, even as we jumped on the call today and I did the normal weather random chat that we do in the farming community and you were way more positive than most people in your district.
00:27:06.005 --> 00:27:13.180 I reckon with how you discussed that, which is obviously evident, with how you've trained your brain to think that way, which is really cool.
00:27:13.180 --> 00:27:15.119 How much did sorry?
00:27:15.894 --> 00:27:26.875 No, no, I was going say with that and um, it's really interesting that you say that because I've trained my mind to stay open to possibility, so I've said this all along.
00:27:26.875 --> 00:27:31.968 Who's to say that by the end of the year we're not saying, wow, how amazing was this year?
00:27:31.968 --> 00:27:36.623 Like nobody can tell as time unfolds, like absolutely no one.
00:27:36.623 --> 00:27:43.615 So if that's what I'm telling my mind, how amazing is it going to be when we look back and say this year was amazing?
00:27:43.615 --> 00:27:48.945 And at the moment I'm sitting here going, wow, considering the rain that we've had, we're in decile one.
00:27:48.945 --> 00:27:58.185 The crops look really good, like yes, they're not our bumper crop that we've seen, but isn't it amazing what we've been able to grow in this time?
00:27:58.646 --> 00:28:03.467 And so I think when you remain open to possibility, your mind filters your life to find more of that.
00:28:03.567 --> 00:28:23.448 So even if I'm focusing on that and the season just ends as it ends, it's still much better than if I was carrying a victim mode and basically down on myself, because you know the external circumstance didn't show up the way that we wanted it to, because in reality, the weather doesn't know that we're making money off of it.
00:28:24.675 --> 00:28:32.237 So how can we actually be annoyed with it for not showing up the way that we wanted it to to make money Like.
00:28:32.237 --> 00:28:33.137 We just can't.
00:28:33.137 --> 00:28:49.917 So the more we can be open to possibility about what could happen, because I don't know then from that space of possibility that something else may pop up to fill in that income that we may have got from farming, or who's to say, it isn't actually perfect timing for something else.
00:28:49.917 --> 00:29:00.351 So I think until we see the bigger picture in a few years time, we could actually look back on this and go well, that year was the catalyst for this, that and that, and look how good a position we're in now.
00:29:00.351 --> 00:29:04.340 So I think we can never judge things just based on what we can see.
00:29:04.340 --> 00:29:08.377 We have to remain open to possibility because we can't see all of the story.
00:29:12.047 --> 00:29:22.450 As you go through this process I mean there's all those quotes about that you're the product of the three people around you, or whatever does does your, the people you hang out with, change or is?
00:29:22.450 --> 00:29:26.502 Um, yeah, I mean I don't know lots of people.
